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Dors's avatar

Came here and discovered you thanks to your recent comment on Western Russia fans at "Edward Slavsquat," a comment that was quite lucid and struck me as spot on. Here, you are asking an excellent question that the anti-covid-measures conspiracy theorists have unfairly downplayed : 'Why would the conspirators would foment Covid panic for two years and then switch it all off?'

Now, in answering it, we see things differently.

You think that much of the response coming in after the initial panic can be explained by the search for that elusive One Weird Trick.

As early as April 2020, ministers of health spoke openly how the lockdowns and the masks are tentative measures, while the only final solution is to come from vaccines. Vaccines for a respiratory infectious disease. That's something, a category of thing that has never existed, and medics thought it is impossible. So, rather than being one weird trick after another, but a number weird tricks employed in combination.

Also peculiarly, but in a different way, by April 2020, the online world was swarmed with many professionally done videos of dancing "nurses." It was mightily strange. Especially given that the videos' provenance remained obscure to this day.

If we were dealing by a despairing and frightened establishment, aiming at calming the populace, how come it otherwise promoted fear 24/7, breaking the very basic established standards of conduct during pandemics and epidemics that were in force for decades.

For something the death rates of which were obviously quite low from the get-go in early 2020 (viz. the 'Diamond Princess').

While the extreme theory about permanently re-engineering society within a several years was shown to be wrong, all that happened was very successful if there was an aim to stupefy the public, i.e. anesthetize it, very convenient for the establishments everywhere facing major crisis and war prospects.

You described how that was accomplished.

Also, while it has not served a social re-engineering blitzkrieg, it was useful if such an re-engineering is envisaged in the longer term.

In any case, there were so many odd things in the responses. Maybe much of them can fit your theory, and I just failed to see how.

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Darij Grinberg's avatar

> Many conspiracy theorists wove grandiose narratives about how vaccine boosters, vaccine passports, lockdowns or masks would last forever and ever, a mark of the elite lording over their cattle.

This isn't quite the steelman version of the argument. That would be "countries will get used to the idea of lockdown and reintroduce it at hair trigger when something scary arrives". And I'm not sure if this version sounds so far-fetched. I have no idea how e.g. the German state will react the next time a respiratory illness with the stats of Covid comes along; all I see is that the pre-covid "lockdowns are not the answer" WHO consensus has eroded, whereas an infrastructure for fairly strict control of the populace has been established in several Western countries. And except for Italy, I haven't seen a Western government pay the electoral price for being too strict. Courts in Canada have rubberstamped governance by emergency order and debanking protestors. Courts in Germany have agreed that you can use curfews to keep people from partying. Good luck having a liberal democracy with these incentives.

I'm fairly angry at the anti-establishment Right too, for wasting their momentum to fight the vaccines instead of hammering the lockdowns. But I expect less from a loose cluster of internet celebrities than from a government with a PhD at every post.

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